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	<title>Mental notes to myself &#187; Community</title>
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		<title>Where are you Rasmus?</title>
		<link>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2008/01/24/where-are-you-rasmus/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harun Yayli</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Community]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[PHP]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve just finish checking this years roster for PHP Quebec Conference 2008.
The list is quite good. Lots of interesting sessions, some not-so-really-php sessions. But this year, there is no Rasmus 
I&#8217;ve always found him interesting to listen to and inspiring. It&#8217;s quite interesting to see what challenges he&#8217;s seeing at Yahoo.
Between the lines, he gives [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just finish checking this years roster for <a href="http://conf.phpquebec.com/en/session">PHP Quebec Conference 2008</a>.<br />
The list is quite good. Lots of interesting sessions, some not-so-really-php sessions. But this year, there is no Rasmus <img src='http://livebookmark.net/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;ve always found him interesting to listen to and inspiring. It&#8217;s quite interesting to see what challenges he&#8217;s seeing at Yahoo.<br />
Between the lines, he gives a lot of tips. Is it just me who likes him talking ? <img src='http://livebookmark.net/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;m sorry that he&#8217;ll not be in Montreal this year. Maybe he didn&#8217;t like the food last year lol. </p>
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		<title>4C + V + P = ? and why?</title>
		<link>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2007/11/15/4c-v-p-and-why/</link>
		<comments>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2007/11/15/4c-v-p-and-why/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harun Yayli</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Communication]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Community]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Ideas]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Industry]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Internet]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Life]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Web 2.0]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Websites]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I was reviewing the formula 4C + V + P = Web 3.0
This is what I think:


Community:

Trust the membersâ€™ input.
Allow the members to be known and get credit by measuring their contributions.
Allow other members in the community to measure and respond to contributions.
Enable membersâ€™ knowledge base to evolve as processes and concepts change.
Enables user to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reviewing the formula 4C + V + P = Web 3.0</p>
<p>This is what I think:<br />
<span id="more-154"></span></p>
<ul>
<li>Community:
<ul>
<li>Trust the membersâ€™ input.</li>
<li>Allow the members to be known and get credit by measuring their contributions.</li>
<li>Allow other members in the community to measure and respond to contributions.</li>
<li>Enable membersâ€™ knowledge base to evolve as processes and concepts change.</li>
<li>Enables user to embrace the content ownership</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Content
<ul>
<li>Make it easy to contribute to your knowledge base and make it accessible to others. </li>
<li>Reviews, Ratings, Comments, Focus: Freedom of expression</li>
<li>Free content</li>
<li>Using the power of the crowd</li>
<li>Originality </li>
<li>Community decides what they want to see on the site</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Context
<ul>
<li>Displaying the information based on reality of the user or page</li>
<li>Giving the value to people near you (in taste or physical location)</li>
<li>Provides personalization of the content</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
- Commerce </p>
<ul>
<li>Adapting non-revenue-generating website into that generates revenue </li>
<li>Via affiliates programs </li>
<li>Without disturbing the community</li>
<li>Should be well hidden between the lines</li>
<li>$$$</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Personalization
<ul>
<li>Allowing the user to tailor the site in accordance with their tastes and preferences.</li>
<li>Caters the sense of ownership / ease of use</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>
Vertical Search</p>
<ul>
<li>Introducing the context into search (showing results that are more relevant to user)</li>
<li>Introducing other sites (possibly affiliate sites/competitors) into search.</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
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		<title>Goatse Can Get You Jailtime in the US, ouch!</title>
		<link>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2007/04/09/goatse-can-get-you-jailtime-in-the-us-ouch/</link>
		<comments>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2007/04/09/goatse-can-get-you-jailtime-in-the-us-ouch/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harun Yayli</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Communication]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Community]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Internet]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Laws]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve just read a post about the goatse man can cause you get a jail time in the US for posting it on a board or site with a fake title. I&#8217;ll not link here the infamous photo here sorry  
Here is the related US code:


Ã‚Â§ 2252C. Misleading words or digital images on the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just read a post about the goatse man can cause you get a jail time in the US for posting it on a board or site with a fake title. I&#8217;ll not link here the infamous photo here sorry <img src='http://livebookmark.net/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Here is the related US code:<br />
<span id="more-143"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>
Ã‚Â§ 2252C. Misleading words or digital images on the Internet<br />
(a) IN GENERAL.Ã¢â‚¬â€Whoever knowingly embeds words or digital images into the source code of a website with the intent to deceive a person into viewing material constituting obscenity shall be fined under this title and imprisoned for not more than 10 years. </p>
<p>(b) MINORS.Ã¢â‚¬â€Whoever knowingly embeds words or digital images into the source code of a website with the intent to deceive<br />
a minor into viewing material harmful to minors on the Internet shall be fined under this title and imprisoned for not more than 20 years. </p>
<p>(c) CONSTRUCTION.Ã¢â‚¬â€For the purposes of this section, a word or digital image that clearly indicates the sexual content of the<br />
site, such as Ã¢â‚¬ËœsexÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ or Ã¢â‚¬ËœpornÃ¢â‚¬â„¢, is not misleading. </p>
<p>(d) DEFINITIONS.Ã¢â‚¬â€As used in this sectionÃ¢â‚¬â€HR 4472 EAS. </p>
<p>(1) the terms Ã¢â‚¬Ëœmaterial that is harmful to minorsÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ and Ã¢â‚¬ËœsexÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ have the meaning given such terms in section 2252B; and Ã¢â‚¬ËœÃ¢â‚¬Ëœ(2)the term &#8217;source codeÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ means the combination of text and other characters comprising the content, both viewable and nonviewable, of a web page, including any website publishing language, programming language, protocol or functional content, as well as any successor languages or protocols.Ã¢â‚¬â„¢Ã¢â‚¬â„¢. </p>
<p>(b) TABLE OF SECTIONS.Ã¢â‚¬â€The table of sections for chapter 110 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after<br />
the item relating to section 2252B the following: 2252C. Misleading words or digital images on the Internet.Ã¢â‚¬â„¢Ã¢â‚¬â„¢.</p>
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<p>hehehe. Next time you post the goatse man or the bath tub girl, remember this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Great Programmers Answer</title>
		<link>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2006/07/24/great-programmers-answer/</link>
		<comments>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2006/07/24/great-programmers-answer/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harun Yayli</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Career]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading this interview is  a really good start to monday morning.
The questiongs are directed to the well known and not so well known programmers.
Linus Torvalds &#8211; The Linux kernel author
Dave Thomas &#8211; Author of the Pragmmatic Programmer, Programming Ruby and other great books about programming. One can read his mainly programming-related thoughts here.
David Heinemeier [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this interview is  a really good start to monday morning.<br />
The questiongs are directed to the well known and not so well known programmers.</p>
<p><strong>Linus Torvalds</strong> &#8211; The Linux kernel author<br />
<strong>Dave Thomas</strong> &#8211; Author of the Pragmmatic Programmer, Programming Ruby and other great books about programming. One can read his mainly programming-related thoughts here.<br />
<strong>David Heinemeier Hansson</strong> &#8211; Author of the Rails Framework &#8211; the new hot web development framework. He has a weblog here.<br />
<strong>Steve Yegge</strong> &#8211; Proably the least known from guys here, but also made one of the most interestings answers, has a popular weblog about programming. He is also the author of a game called Ã¢â‚¬Å¾WyvernÃ¢â‚¬Â.<br />
<strong>Peter Norvig</strong> &#8211; Research Director at Google, a well known Lisper, author of famous (in some circles at least) books about AI. See his homepage.<br />
<strong>Guido Van Rossum</strong> &#8211; The Python language creator<br />
<strong>James Gosling</strong> &#8211; The Java language creator<br />
<strong>Tim Bray</strong> &#8211; One of the XML and Atom specifications author and a blogger too.</p>
<p><span id="more-136"></span><br />
Read the rest of the interview from here: <a href="http://sztywny.titaniumhosting.com/2006/07/23/stiff-asks-great-programmers-answers/">StiffLog</a></p>
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		<title>Bell Sympatico on duty for the Big brother</title>
		<link>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2006/06/29/bell-sympatico-on-duty-for-the-big-brother/</link>
		<comments>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2006/06/29/bell-sympatico-on-duty-for-the-big-brother/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harun Yayli</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bell]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Cencorship]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Community]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Industry]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Internet]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silently Bell Sympatico updated their terms and service affective by the May 15,2006 but all the news papers and Slashdot figured it out now a days.
Paragraph 17 of the terms and conditions of Bell Sympatico Service, it says:

User Information; Other Information. Your messages may be the subject of unauthorized third party interception and review. An [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silently Bell Sympatico updated their terms and service affective by the May 15,2006 but all the news papers and Slashdot figured it out now a days.<br />
Paragraph 17 of the <a href="http://service2.sympatico.ca/index.cfm?method=content.view&#038;category_id=257&#038;content_id=929">terms and conditions of Bell Sympatico Service</a>, it says:</p>
<blockquote><p>
User Information; Other Information. Your messages may be the subject of unauthorized third party interception and review. An individual with Internet access can cause, among other things, damage, incur expenses and enter into contractual obligations while on the Internet. All such matters are your sole responsibility. Your Service Provider has no obligation to monitor the Service, any content or your use of Your Service ProviderÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s networks. However, <strong>you agree that Your Service Provider reserves the right from time to time to monitor the Service electronically, monitor or investigate content or your use of Your Service ProviderÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s networks, including without limitation bandwidth consumption, and to disclose any information necessary to satisfy any laws, regulations or other governmental request from any applicable jurisdiction, or as necessary to operate the Service or to protect itself or others.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>That means they&#8217;ll tell you to the big brother if you download mp3s from your favorite bittorrent site.<br />
Also by talking to friends I learned that all the ISPs in Canada doing the same thing already but Bell is the first ISP to announce it on their ToS.</p>
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		<title>Flock</title>
		<link>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2005/08/17/flock/</link>
		<comments>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2005/08/17/flock/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harun Yayli</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Community]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Web 2.0]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Websites]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Something new is coming around.
flock  is the new thing ppl talk about. It seems like a full-of-interactivity social bookmark site.
Also a teaser-article is here too.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something new is coming around.<br />
<a href="http://flock.com">flock </a> is the new thing ppl talk about. It seems like a full-of-interactivity social bookmark site.<br />
Also a teaser-article is <a href="http://www.rolandtanglao.com/archives/2005/08/11/flock_rocks_or_chris_messina_is_a_demo_god">here </a>too.</p>
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		<title>State of the Blogosphere</title>
		<link>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2005/08/15/state-of-the-blogosphere/</link>
		<comments>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2005/08/15/state-of-the-blogosphere/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harun Yayli</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Blogs]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Community]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Technology]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Blogs blogging and more&#8230;
Technorati&#8217;s article about all. Worths reading.
link
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogs blogging and more&#8230;</p>
<p>Technorati&#8217;s article about all. Worths reading.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sifry.com/alerts/archives/000332.html">link</a></p>
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		<title>Cisco&#8217;s shame</title>
		<link>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2005/08/03/ciscos-shame/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 04:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harun Yayli</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Black Hats]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Cencorship]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Cisco]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Community]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was one of the guys who really liked Cisco products etc.
I even got the CCNA courses. However this news is not something that I can put together with Cisco.
A researcher followed through with a presentation on a security hole in Cisco&#8217;s IOS even after the network equipment company theatened to shut down the conference [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was one of the guys who really liked Cisco products etc.<br />
I even got the CCNA courses. However <a href="http://www.thechannelinsider.com/article2/0,1895,1841187,00.asp">this</a> news is not something that I can put together with Cisco.</p>
<blockquote><p>A researcher followed through with a presentation on a security hole in Cisco&#8217;s IOS even after the network equipment company theatened to shut down the conference if the information wasn&#8217;t suppressed.</p></blockquote>
<p>Also:<br />
video of the cencorship : <a href="http://42.pl/lynn/cisco.mov">here</a><br />
and the presentation on Cisco bugs which was removed from the books are <a href="http://42.pl/lynn/lynn-cisco.pdf">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Longhorn RSS APIs reveal MS strategy</title>
		<link>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2005/07/12/longhorn-rss-apis-reveal-ms-strategy/</link>
		<comments>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2005/07/12/longhorn-rss-apis-reveal-ms-strategy/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harun Yayli</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Community]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[RSS]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[After watching the Longhorn- RSS and Browsing Teams 1 hour video, I was so amazed. At first it was something really unexpected from Microsoft.  Supporting RSS at OS Level? Having APIs for RSS? Is Microsoft approaching to the open source guys by supporting RSS deeply?
Days passed and I see the things much clearer. 
After [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After watching the Longhorn- RSS and Browsing Teams 1 hour video, I was so amazed. At first it was something really unexpected from Microsoft.  Supporting RSS at OS Level? Having APIs for RSS? Is Microsoft approaching to the open source guys by supporting RSS deeply?</p>
<p>Days passed and I see the things much clearer. </p>
<p>After reading this passage, you&#8217;ll understand the Microsoft way and Microsoft&#8217;s idea about computers and computer users (plus developers).  The question you should ask to yourself  is &#8220;What is an Operating System?&#8221;<br />
<span id="more-36"></span>According to <a href="http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article?tocId=9374062&#038;query=Operating%20System&#038;ct=">Encyclopedia Britannica </a> Operating system is :</p>
<blockquote><p>Software that controls the operation of a computer, directs the input and output of data, keeps track of files, and controls the processing of computer programs.</p></blockquote>
<p>With one sentence maybe this is the best explanation you can find.<br />
My point is,  an operating system&#8217;s duty is not supporting custom operations. For example, your can not expect an operating system to have an internal spread sheet support or word processing support.<br />
Those are called: Applications or simply software and from Britannica: Instructions that tell a computer what to do.</p>
<p>Quote from MS RSS developers&#8217; manager: &#8220;We want developers to build good applications rapidly without going all through the hassle of rewriting lots of code.&#8221; (I don&#8217;t really remember what he exactly said but his point was this.)</p>
<p>This is a great objective for a project! However, is operating system level suitable for this kind of support?</p>
<p>Generally when developers write their codes, if they plan to re-use the same code again and again, they put the re-usable code together and call it a library. They share these libraries with each other and call it open source. Most of the time the reason they share  is just for the sake of sharing or feeling sorry for the future developers who will go through the same problem. This is not a foreign term for most of us. For an open-source developer it&#8217;s the foundation of all software. (Java, C, PHP, Perl, Python and many more all live with shared libraries.)</p>
<p>However MS mind has a different point of view. As it seems they see the open-source community not useful way for software evolution. Instead of allowing people to access open libraries they hide their code.  They bury their code deep under the OS to hide it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the main reason that any MS operating system will not be better, faster and useful then any simple open-source operating system supported with vast open-source libraries. When you boot your MS box, it will deal with huge amount of garbage that you&#8217;ll never even use through all your life.  The OS will try to handle hundreds of thousands (soon possibly millions) if API calls and not give you a hint of performance and usability.</p>
<p>When you need a support for a special application for like RSS you don&#8217;t build it on OS level, you &#8220;extend&#8221; the OS with a library. But it is so far for MS to build a library and distribute it for free. They want us to pay for every bit of the code they wrote. That is MS point of view.</p>
<p>In the end I can not blame them not to give anything for free. They are a company for making profit. But I can&#8217;t let anyone to tell me that :<br />
<em>&#8220;Longhorn loves RSS&#8221;</em>.<br />
No one is yet stupid to believe this.What I&#8217;d say :<em>&#8220;Longhorn loves money&#8221;</em>.</p>
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		<title>Trip{set}</title>
		<link>http://livebookmark.net/journal/2005/07/11/tripset/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Harun Yayli</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A new website is coming up.
It seems like a nice idea derived from Flickr.
Flickr has a nice idea to organize photos. You can organize them as sets. 
Howabout a photo site for your travel photos that you create sets out of it&#8230; It&#8217;ll surely create a community around it. I hope they market it well.
Here [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new website is coming up.</p>
<p>It seems like a nice idea derived from Flickr.<br />
Flickr has a nice idea to organize photos. You can organize them as sets. </p>
<p>Howabout a photo site for your travel photos that you create sets out of it&#8230; It&#8217;ll surely create a community around it. I hope they market it well.<br />
Here are some <a href="/journal/uploads/tripset/">screenshots</a>. </p>
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